Ministry update

This ministry ha has been about since 1984   the world has changed during that time. Something else has changed and I frankly do not like it; I am not 18 any more infact I am just shy of my 66th birhday. And I am tired, real tired. However tired I am I want to see to it that one more person hear the Good News of Jesus christ

What has transpired this year, so far?

#1. as you know I suffered a masive heart attact in January and I again was hospitalised in April of this year. I am, by doctors orderes meant to be on the mend which means zero working, no walks, no heavy lifting, no driving. You get the picture?

#2. So my ministry has suffered and the board of directors has suggested I close down the minisstry. I suggested another 2 years to see which way it will go. Thus I extended the internet  contract with Comcast Business Class two more years.

#3. Starting in the next few days Thunderdome Ministry will embark on a second website that has ties with Google called UNEI.  My hope and prayer is to reach out even further with Gods message of hope and forgiveness. Thus, the ministry will have two websites on the World Wide Web.

#4.  Sadly after some tweny years there will be no Woodward Avenue Dream Crusie outreach this year. Unlike previous years, we had the tracts and the volunters and my health is still on the mend and lastly I am without transportation.

                                             Just what is the vision of the ministry

A.     to continue reaching the lost for the Lord as 2nd Corinthins chapter 15 tells us that we have the ministry & Word of reconcillation.

B.    build on 110 plus acress a campus for homless Christians and  vets. On the property would be a 200-250 seat chapel with learning center and at least 5-6 houses for living quarters.

In order for the vision to come to light means people just like you will need to  come forward and help financially. Why?  becasue this minstry is trying to stay away from goverment interferance. This mean not goverment grants. Why no grants? to many loopholes and restrictions. This is also why this ministry has been staying away from being a 501c3.

Present day

As of right now the minstry faces its problems, just as any other ministry What this ministry faces is a shortage of items that make a minisry run smoothly. One such issue is  that of modernday technogly.

The ministry runs short on copy paper, uptodate printer  as well as a computer/laptop.

Then too, there is no Christian volunteers or sponsorship to lean on for a little rest.

Am I available for speaking/preaching engagments? The answer is yes and no.  Yes I could do a preaching engagemnt. However said engagements would need to be here in Michigan and with traansporttion and lodging are provided until April-May of next year. Please let your Pastor know of my availabilty and he can contact me directly.

                             The following is a list of references used in this edition

1. Romans Road
2. Comcast Business Class
3. UNEI  
4. Woodward Avenue Dream Crusie
5. Chick tracts 
6.   Paypal for love gifts for the ministry

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Mountain Moving 2019

Before I begin let us look at the Holy Scriptures;

It reads as follows

Mar 11:22  And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. 

Mar 11:23  For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. 

Mar 11:24  Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. 

Let’s look at this and in doing so understand many think/believe its Gods  responsibility to do everything.

This, dear reader is farthest from the truth.

Your Responsibility	Gods Responsibility
·         Have faith in God. Mar 11:22	·         he shall have Mar 11:23
·         whosoever shall say Mar 11:23	·         and ye shall have them Mar 11:24
·         shall not doubt in his heart Mar 11:23
·         but shall believe Mar 11:23
·         he saith Mar 11:23
·         soever ye desire Mar 11:24
·         ye pray Mar 11:24
·         believe Mar 11:24

                                      

What me have faith? Indeed! As you read and hear Gods Word your faith grows little by little just like having a bank account.  God does not need faith, nor silver nor gold not even cattle. Why not? God has owned them since the beginning of Earths meger beginnings. So, lets look at this simple part you and me both need to move a mountain but how? We use our faith not His; look at it as a withdrawal from the bank. You need a little cash so you either use a teller(legally of course) or use an ATM machine. You don’t take all your money out of the bank just enough maybe to buy dinner at a nearby restaurant.

How do you know if you have faith in God? It’s called the test of time if you will. If you have been reading Gods Word you have faith.  I think the biggest test is what transpires between your house and the hospital in the back of an ambulance.  Whenever tradgy strikes it seems we end up in the ambulance. If you have ever been in a bicycle or automobile accident you know where I am coming from. There is zero time and place to pull out a Bible and start reading that’s because the workers have to do their work. So its time to layback and trust God to the fullest; This has happened to me several times and every time it was a life and death situation God took me through the ordeal. Even as recent as December 2018, while having what they referred to as a level two heart attack, God saw me through.

But what about Thunderdome Ministries Network Inc?

As stated once before, God will get this ministry through the rough waters though the faith of loyal believers that believes in the vision of the ministry.  However, and due to personal finances which God will be changing soon I trust one thing is certain.  What I have to share next will shock you but you need to hear the following;

Several brothers in the faith have suggested that the ministry ought to shutter its doors or perhaps be sold. Yours truly have given so much into the ministry since 1982 and little has returned on the physical side. Even when I tried to help a few homeless people not long ago, that were referred to me, I got burned big.

Will I still help homeless Christians in the future? Indeed, but under entirely different surroundings, like a campus on one hundred acres.

 

What can you do in 2019?

Ø  Be faithful

Ø  Be loyal

Ø  Be prayerful

Ø  Help move the mountain legally so we can help others in need. Help the homeless Christians.

Ø  Help buy and build a legally run campus, for those mentioned, on one hundred acres.

Ø  Volunteer: there are many areas of the ministry that need help form the talent inside Gods House. From a paper pusher to a website creator or even a person who handles customer service to perhaps evening being the next CEO of he ministry. 

 

Let us move that montain starting in 2019, yes?

Shall we set a monetary goal  for 2019?

What if we set a goal of say $150,000 for the entire year?

Some of which would cover monthly costs of course.

If, you believe in moving a mountain then lets move this mountain together. Let us put together a ministry, not made of fancy jets and cars but of souls that need Gods hand.

I.            Picture a campus of 4 bedroom houses, not dorms that homeless Christian families could sleep in peace.

II.            Picture a campus with a chapel that would sit 500 men, women and children several days a week..

III.            Picture a man on a tractor plowing the land, sowing seeds and harvesting crops to feel those on campus.

IV.            Picture a man/women in a large garage servicing vehicles of every size

V.            Picture a special house for Christian music groups like Petra, Newsboys, Christ Thomlin and so forth, to stay in peace, to save on their expenses. Asking nothing in return.

VI.            __________(left blank on purpose)

All of these pictures are possible, but we all need to work together.

We all need to start moving the mountains that are in the way.

 

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Its Past Time

It’s Past Time

By: Reverend David Liebler

Date: December 24 2018

Edited: December 27 2018

The Late Pastor David Wilkerson attempted to give warning. But the message seemed to be ignored a and I know why .It be the same reason as many others messengers have been ignored

over the decades. Whether you admit it or not, professing Christian, or not, people think the message could not come from the thone of God because God is forgiving and merciful. And, in part, you would be right. But God has a message alright and the Thunder from the throne of God is very loud indeed.

 But let’s look at some Biblical historical facts.

* God first kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden due to sin of disobedience.

* Abel was banished for not only lying to God but for the cold murder of his own brother.

* Due to mans sin and disobedience God destroyed the world with a flood saving only the family of Noah.

* Tale of two cities caught up in sin of about every type possible to man. Destroyed by fire and brimstone except for Lot and his family. And even then Lots wife disobeyed God and looked back only to turn into a pillar of fire.

If those four lessons don’t remind you, then, lets look at some other more personal issues that transpired.

a. When men of importance got jealous of Daniel and his friends they conspired to have the four terminated. End result? It backfired and the four men of God were spared while their accusers paid with their life.

b. When again they tried to accuse Daniel the end result as well was met with the accusers downfall eaten by hungry lions in the very den Daniel was rescued from moments earlier.

c. Jeremiah tried to tell the king the truth. The king only wanted to hear good things, soothing things to proper his kingdom. While Jerimiah suffered in prison the kingdom suffered.

d. Let’s talk about the first king of Israel that the people wanted? He disobeyed God, tried to kill David only to be met with a hoarded death in battle.

e. Let’s look at least two new testament men of God: John the Baptist and Jesus of Nazareth himself. John the Baptist was and also is classified as #1 a relative of Jesus #2. Prophet of God #3 disliked by a certain person or two in charge. End result John was beheaded. We know full well about Jesus, who was the son of Joseph and Mary. The end was that the life of Jesus suffered, died and rose again because some did not like the message from the message from the thone of God.

I have hereby given example after example how God dislikes humans mishandling His messengers.
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Let’s fast forward to modern era okay?

* Keith Green, musician and prophet. Died in a airplane accident. Taken before his time.

* David Wilkerson, pastor, evangelist and prophet: died in a car accident.

Are there other modern day prophets who died before their time we know not about?

What about the legendary Reverend Billy Graham? Billy Graham seems to fit the bill as a modern day prophet let alone a pastor, reverend and evangelist. Look at all the countless men, women and children who came to hear “the word of the Lord” and they accepted Jesus into their lives by the hundreds.

Regretfully, and perhaps sadly of all., the Word of the Lord seems to only hit ears who want to hear. I think that’s is called selective hearing. But Gods Word calls it something else. Gods own Word calls it “itching ears” listen to Gods own Words if you won’t listen to anyone else, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

2 Timothy 4:3 KJV https://bible.com/bible/1/2ti.4.3.KJV

 

Should we read this in its whole text?

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

2 Timothy 4:2-5 KJV https://bible.com/bible/1/2ti.4.2-5.KJV

Would you beieve that there are churches who refuse to believe the first part of this scripture? Thats right they do not believe in  the following reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsufferin. The very ministers of the Word of the Lord beieve its up to God to do this work without their own voice. So if a Pastor is not telling the Word of the Lord what is he really saying? Its okay to live in sin as a Christan becasue Gods all mercyfully and forgiving? So how would one know if tey were living in sin unless the preacher tells them?

 With that said, if your listening still let me inform you of the following .

* The prophet of the Word of God is the same as the Watchman David Wilkerson preached about.

* God is the same today and forever. If God says He will do something He will do it.

* Since God dislikes sin you can be sure that no sin will enter the kingdom of God.regradless of ones thinking and r man made doctrine.

Why this message?

God says that if one does not tell another of their sins the blood of the people would be on the prophets/messengers hand. So what is the messages God wants to teach you?

• Its okay to reprove
• its okay to rebuke
• its okay to exhort with all longsuffering 
• It is lso okay to warn people of what is ahead if they choose the wrong road. If you dont warn them and have them repent their blood will be on your hands and the hands of the Prohet/Watchman of the house.

Just like in the Old Testament Prophets/Watchman of the House are placed into the body of Chrisgt for a reason.  If you continue to push them into the corner of the House of God you would be cutting off  very Word of the Lord, and then you would be misssing so much.

Last Days Message

What will happen in the last days? Plenty! But before I give you a hint you need to remember tha the very God who shows mercy did desroy mankind by a great flood that covered the Earth. Now you say that dont sound like a merciful and forgiving God However you need to understand that God was trying simply to rid the planet of sin. To make His creation Holy again. Did God fail? NO! mankind failed. What to know how God wil take care of Earth in the end? It wont be by water that we know due to His promise.

 

Here is some scriptures that perhaps your own Pastor is not telling you

2 Peter 3:10 ESV / 

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.

2 Peter 3:7 ESV /

But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

Revelation 21:1 ESV / 

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.

Malachi 4:1 ESV / 

“For behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble. The day that is coming shall set them ablaze, says the Lord of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.

2 Peter 3:1-18 ESV / 

This is now the second letter that I am writing to you, beloved. In both of them I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder, that you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles, knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, ...

2 Peter 3:12 ESV / 38 helpful votes

Waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn!

Revelation 21:1-27 ESV / 36 helpful votes

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” ...

; but my salvation will be forever, and my righteousness will never be dismayed. 

 

 

 

 What is your pastor teaching you? Health weath and property? or is he warning you about the last days and the sin thats in the world even today.? If he is not warning you then Im afraid for your eternty. See it says that the wages of sin is death. Thats not just your physcial death, its your spiritual death unles you repent and turn to the Lord.I

 

Ts past time you know the truth. 

The truth that is not being told.

Sin is sin regardless of the various man made catagories. 

And 

no sin will ever enter into the Kingdom of God

If they hate me….

The year was 1953 one that would see tragedy with tornados in various part of the state of Michigan. Port Huron saw a twister as did Flint Michigan. In 1953 one was avoided the birth of a male child on July twenty-seventh in Norman Oklahoma. But wait, this child was not posed to live he was, according to stories this writer heard, to have been aborted. Yet, some sixty-five years later, there are stories to tell and heart breaks to be seen and felt.

Lets fast track to the end of 2018, some sixty-five years later, if you please;

Over the course of my life I was told I was dumb, stupid, would not amount to very much and that was just at home, putting it lightly. At school I was bullied and beat up and yet through it all I still managed to live. The reason why I was bullied was because of the work my foster father, worked at so the kids thought they could push yours truly because I would not fight back being the “son of a policeman.” 

So allow this writer to get to the point, fair enough?

Being a Christian would seem like a easy road to walk down right? But it is not, I will not sugar coat the story. Ever since the issue with Jesus and the Scribes and so forth His followers are  degraded to the teeth. Allow me to throw out some names and see if you know any of these who were degraded.

·         Pastor Billy Sunday

·         Pastor Charles Spurgeon

·         Pastor David Wilkerson

·         Rev. Billy Graham

·         Rev. Oral Roberts

·         Rev Rex Humbard

·         Peter

·         John

·         James

·         Paul who you also was known as Saul

·         Steven

·         Kenneth Hagin

·         Keith Green the prophet and song writer

·         Jeremiah the prophet

·         Rev Leonard Ravenhill

And the names could go on for eternity. And, by the way, the late Pastor Richard Blue has come under attack. And since Pastor Blue was my mentor I get the occasional riding of the rails as well. People degrade not only the man or woman of God but the message of reconciliation as well.

Listen, if you please, what Jesus had to say about those who hate Christians and ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Joh 15:18  If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 

Joh 15:19  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 

Joh 15:20  Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 

Joh 15:21  But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. 

Joh 15:22  If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. 

Joh 15:23  He that hateth me hateth my Father also. 

Joh 15:24  If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. 

Joh 15:25  But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause. 

Do you get bullied and degraded because you’re a Christian? If so you see the reason why in the scripture above.

Does the message of salvation(sometimes known as the Romans Road) get kicked around like football(known  as a Soccer ball in the USA)

And what’s freaky all the bullies who do the degrading are within the walls of a brick and mortar church.

Now, and since Pastor Blue is on to be with the LORD, I get to be bullied. And its over a simple tract Pastor Blue used for ages that, for the most part is located on Thunderdome Ministries Network  very own website.

“Well how many people have been lead to the LORD because its on your website?”  And the answer is I hope every person who reads that “the wages of sin is death” makes it to heaven. As I would rather they be happy in heave for eternity that in pain.

The late Pastor David Wilkerson said it the best, “the sin message is the hardest message to teach and to preach.

Because no one wants to hear the very truth that would set them free.”

To all Christians who are being bullied at school, home, in the work place or even in the hallowed halls of a church, I say the following:

Since they hated Jesus without a cause how much more shall we be hated.

Rember what was said in the the book of Epesians. And it reads like this:

The Whole Armor of God

Eph 6:10  Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 

Eph 6:11  Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 

Eph 6:12  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 

Eph 6:13  Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 

Eph 6:14  Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 

Eph 6:15  And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 

Eph 6:16  Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 

Eph 6:17  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 

Eph 6:18  Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; 

Eph 6:19  And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, 

Eph 6:20  For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak. 

It was once said that Samuel Clemens (Aka Mark Twain) knew how to speak to his audience. He, Samuel Clemens,  knew the power of the pause. It is said that at one of his conferences that he stood on stage 30 full minutes not uttering a sound. Some thought he was crazy and walked out. Some berated Clemens. But when Clemens did speak there was much respect and awe. For you see, those who know not the power and strength of the pause know little of the power of the story.

And what a story Christians have indeed.

Christians own the pause

                                  while God owns the story.

How many men, women and children have I lead to the Lord?

I know not

And do not want to know.

I will allow God to be the score keeper

As He owns the rest of the story.

After thought:

IF you are attacking the Gospel message and or being a bully to a minsiter of the Gospel I would so inclined to give God a wide berth as He walks by.